Is this the end of the X-Files?

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Permalink Reply by Patricia on August 25, 2008 at 3:57pm

I think there is a possibility for another movie if the DVD does big business. So start getting those credit cards in good condition now. :) We definitely have the power to make that portion of things a reality, and we're relatively good at making some noise.

But in terms of a series, I can't see there ever being another X-Files on television (at least not with "our" team). I think Fox is still interested in that type of show, though. "Fringe" seems to be evidence of that. I can't tell you how many articles I've read comparing that show to XF.

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Permalink Reply by Edward on August 25, 2008 at 5:03pm

Hi Kate,

I agree.

There's been some other paranormal type shows on since the end of the X-Files, "Supernatural" for example. I watched a few episodes but it doesn't come close to the X-Files. Even though "Fringe" might be successful, and I hope that it is, it won't be the X-Files.

I have been very busy since 2002 writing books (check out my website if you like) and for the most part forgot about the X-Files. My wife is also a big fan of the X-Files (it was/is the one show we both like) so when the movie was released we watched it the next day, the 26th. Then, I remembered how much I loved the show and since I had seasons 1 through 5 on DVD from birthdays and Christmases I started watching, and have been watching ever since. What really grabs me as a viewer is not so much the paranormality, although I do enjoy that genre, but the interaction between Mulder and Scully. There's a certain sexual tension between them that for lack of appropriate words I have to call 'Magic.' This magic pulls you into the episode and evokes such emotion that you want to cheer for them.

One good example of this 'Magic' is the ending of the episode entitled "The Post-Modern Prometheus." What an ending! To cut the script and have Mulder ask for a different ending, then do the dance scene to Cher's "Walking in Memphis" was more than brilliance. But what made that scene really work is that Duchovny and and Anderson were as genuine as they could be, and it appears that they really enjoyed doing that scene, and really enjoyed working together.

I think that type of chemistry is rare, off screen as well as on screen.

Maybe there is a market for X-Files in the fiction book market? My wife thinks so and thinks I should have a go at it.

I will watch "Fringe" but I will keep on with my DVDs. The question is: what do I do after season 9?

Best
Ed

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Permalink Reply by Vadim Bobkovsky on August 26, 2008 at 1:17am

What are you talking about? Come on! The Sequel already got a $60+ ml. worldwide, and a total budget was something about $29ml. TWTF? It gets the freaking money, but now, and when DVD/BluRay gets a release, IWTB just will have a pure profit. You understand? A PURE FREAKING PROFIT.

It's no doubt, that Sequel not have a big smacking gross box-office unlike those bambam-blockbusters did (because of the poor promotion, no effects, very quite intimate plot, no gunshots and blow/job/s, bla bla bla).
BUT, it was well okay (not that bad as could be) in theaters. Again, some of the potential viewers didn't yet have a opportunity to see it in cinemas (here in /RU/ cinema theaters already close off screenings and tell people who wanna to see it today to get the funk out there because its over). Boy, i guarantee you that people now look forward to buy Unrated Edition DVDs (with extras!), when its be available.

$60+ ml. in cinemas, and well just say 3-4 ml. copies of DVD/BD in couple months after release. It is millions and millions of those good old american dollars. And why the hell these smart asses on FOX (with Chris+Frank and fans pressure) not allow to do TXF-3 trequel movie? 40 ml. for an Alien Invasion Mythology Movie + $10ml. promotion budget. Plus if it will be right time of release, then those $100ml. bucks go back to the freaking Studio.

As a nerd and a hardcore fan, all I wanna say: IF WE REALLY WANT IT, WE FINALLY GET IT.

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Permalink Reply by mystery on August 26, 2008 at 4:02am

Of course sequels generate money... every movie out there has sequels.. movies like jeepers creepers... scorpion king etc, movie these days make more money in rentals and dvd sales..
I think in general people are paying less and less money to actually go to the movies, they just rent, on demand and buy.
I really don't see why they wouldn't make XF3, when the movie is closing in at $60 mil

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Permalink Reply by Linda61 on August 26, 2008 at 6:08am

I don't feel the box office is that low. It's a low budget movie and box office is almost 60 million right now and still going up. Slow, but it's going.
I think if it can 75 million is will be enough there's a possibility for another movie. I don't see why they can't make that, in a lot of countries the movie hasn't even opened yet.
I don't see another series happen though.

Linda61

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Permalink Reply by Edward on August 26, 2008 at 8:31am

Vadim

It’s good to hear that foreign sales are on the upswing.

But I am still a bit worried. Fox messed up the series back in 2000/2001 in their negotiations with Duchovny. Hopefully, the business office has their thinking caps on and we'll have XF3 to 10.

I guess I was hoping for a blockbuster.

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Permalink Reply by Patricia on August 26, 2008 at 10:32am

I think you are right. There is a market for X-Files fiction. There used to be a series of books written with permission, but they were a bit hampered because they couldn't advance the heart of the story (the M&S interaction) further than what had already existed on the show. I've only read one (maybe two) of them, and they weren't particularly satisfying-- they only focused on the monsters and the paranormal, and missed that "magic" that you so accurately described. Maybe now that they have allowed the characters to mature and develop, official fiction would be even more embraced? I don't really know how well the original series of books sold.



Edward F. Malkowski said:

Hi Kate,

I agree.

There's been some other paranormal type shows on since the end of the X-Files, "Supernatural" for example. I watched a few episodes but it doesn't come close to the X-Files. Even though "Fringe" might be successful, and I hope that it is, it won't be the X-Files.

I have been very busy since 2002 writing books (check out my website if you like) and for the most part forgot about the X-Files. My wife is also a big fan of the X-Files (it was/is the one show we both like) so when the movie was released we watched it the next day, the 26th. Then, I remembered how much I loved the show and since I had seasons 1 through 5 on DVD from birthdays and Christmases I started watching, and have been watching ever since. What really grabs me as a viewer is not so much the paranormality, although I do enjoy that genre, but the interaction between Mulder and Scully. There's a certain sexual tension between them that for lack of appropriate words I have to call 'Magic.' This magic pulls you into the episode and evokes such emotion that you want to cheer for them.

One good example of this 'Magic' is the ending of the episode entitled "The Post-Modern Prometheus." What an ending! To cut the script and have Mulder ask for a different ending, then do the dance scene to Cher's "Walking in Memphis" was more than brilliance. But what made that scene really work is that Duchovny and and Anderson were as genuine as they could be, and it appears that they really enjoyed doing that scene, and really enjoyed working together.

I think that type of chemistry is rare, off screen as well as on screen.

Maybe there is a market for X-Files in the fiction book market? My wife thinks so and thinks I should have a go at it.

I will watch "Fringe" but I will keep on with my DVDs. The question is: what do I do after season 9?

Best
Ed

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Permalink Reply by Edward on August 26, 2008 at 11:04am

Hi Cailicat,

I signed up with Big Light because of my renewed interest in the X-Files. I know very little about Big Light. You stated that ‘one of them gave us the board.’

Who gave us this message board?

Best,
Ed

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Permalink Reply by Tanisgb on August 26, 2008 at 11:05am

I think you are a little harsh :S Though I agree in some things with you, specially the fact that the trailer gave the impression of a different movie to the one we got and that the "secrecy policy" totally backfired.
I believe the problem was that the expectations were too high after 6 years -everybody expected a different thing according to what the X files meant to each one of them- and the "hush, hush" strategy was SO not the card to play in order to prepare the audience to the intimate, low-profile tone of the movie, but I dissent with you in the bad timing not being an issue...It totally was!! Even with all the flaws in promotion, the movie would have had a better chance with a different release date.

To be honest, my experience when I finally got to watch the movie was that I ended too confused to have a veredict about it, I "felt" it, but didn´t "get it". And no, I am not a mentally unstable M&S obsessive, I am a shipper indeed, but I love the Xfiles for the whole package not just the relationship (if I didn´t I would limit myself to soap operas). Anyway, I tend to digress....the point is that after re-watching it, I have been able to "get it". With every time I have re-wacthed it, I have liked it more! I am happy that the creators worked to please themselves and that they gave us more mature characters.
To certain extent I am proud they didn´t went to the common safe places and I really enjoyed the ride of rediscovering the show and its fandom. I know many things could have been done differently to boost the interest of former fans but we can´t change what was done...
Throwing away what was accomplish and close the XF door FOREVER?? That would only prove that Fox has no idea of the potential XF still has -even after the IWTB US box office debacle- And let´s not forget that in the international markets the movie has had a pretty good response...
The audience might no be in the US, but it´s certainly out there!

Allan said:

If this is the last its because of diminished returns and public interest. 1998 ($83,892,374)--->2008 ($20,504,740). Those numbers are just from yahoo right now. Would the studio risk another at that rate? A lot of people I talked to were fans of the series before, but then I heard them say they don't care anymore after seeing the previews. 3rd rate actors like Xhibit and Amanda Peet? What? In the trailer you could not tell what the story was about also! One friend just never got around to seeing it and this is a person who owned the original x-files video game on PSone, which I don't even have, so you can see the problem! Its not bad timing, the public doesn't care care for the trailer and what it promised. It looked depressing compared to fight the future, especially with no aliens or monster to fight.

Compared to other movies this decade, the quality of the story and dialogue was a little below. If you compare it to the writing on good episodes of x-files, or other science fiction of the past it emulates, then it kind of sucked. If you were expecting aliens or a final resolution to the story, then you are hating yourself for waiting this many years, and hating the creators for that implied promise....

But, my point is that they managed to drive a stake down the middle of the remaining fans. There were the semi-hardcore people that loved the paranormal, monster, & alien stories, and then there were the mentally unstable M&S obsessives...you can guess which group was satisfied. I know for a fact that the monster & alien fans are still around because the scifi channel is still going strong....you just have to give them a real reason to see the movie, and there wasn't one at all unfortunately.

Is this the end of the X-files?? I don't know. I just hope they rip it away from the creators next time, because I think they are so lazy!! Give the story to someone that can write a real ending to the series!! M&S are so dead right now. Their relationship was like watching decaying mummies fall onto eachother on the floor.

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Permalink Reply by Tanisgb on August 26, 2008 at 11:08am

The one and only Frank Spotnitz!! =)

Edward F. Malkowski said:

Hi Cailicat,

I signed up with Big Light because of my renewed interest in the X-Files. I know very little about Big Light. You stated that ‘one of them gave us the board.’

Who gave us this message board?

Best,
Ed

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Permalink Reply by Edward on August 26, 2008 at 11:12am

Bebuzo,

Holy Cow! That's so cool! I hadn't a clue. Does he ever post?

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Permalink Reply by Tanisgb on August 26, 2008 at 11:20am

Hi Ed!

This network thing is indeed pretty cool!! ;)
From my experience here, I can say that Mr. Spotnitz is quite interested in what fans have to say...you can write an e-mail through his blog and if its selected from many others he receives, he´ll post it in the Big Light Blog area and anwer it. He is Mr. Coolness, LOL.

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