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The William Factor
After several months of story ideas in the X Files 3 section, (http://network.biglight.com/forum/topics/2104747:Topic:16227), there seems to be an equal number of fans
that are either pro/anti William in XF3. I decided to make a section on
just “The William Factor”
Assuming that the William storyline will be heavily mentioned in XF3, how would it develop?
You can voice your positive/negative approach to this storyline, just be sure and give a full explanation so we can all have a discussion.
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Permalink Reply by tdevol on -
I agree with you completely. Casting that kid would be incredibly important. The right look, the right voice, the ability to be that believable in the role. It would be hard to do. If it were me, I would look for a kid with very little film experience, one with a quiet maturity and one that can express the range of emotion that Gillian brings to the role of Scully.
Avi should chime in on this one. I bet she'd have some really great thoughts on the casting portion of this discussion! (in addition to her other great XF3 thoughts of course)
Heather Aymer said:I agree, a compelling reason would need to be presented, a clear and present danger that they discover. My thoughts coincide with those who explained this opinion.
I do recall, however, that William was born at the end of Season 8, which was around 2001, if we allow for a certain amount of real time. In 2012, William would be around age 11 or 12. That fact of actor age may inhibit certain story decisions, for finding a young actor to play such a character. I'm sure it could be done, but that would be part of the thought process, I think.
And, considering how particular the fanbase could be in this decision, if they do include a William storyline, they would spend a great deal of time in casting consideration, methinks.
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Permalink Reply by Raskolnikov on -
@ Dana Doggett: “…..the poor kid was adopted by a family that loves him, he was made normal by Jeffrey Spender….”
I disagree in part, with this statement. IMO, the introduction of magnetite by William’s Uncle Jeffry, rendered him temporarily human, thereby nullifying his powers. Magnetite is not normally found in the human body, so therefore the body will do its job and rid itself of the foreign toxin overtime.
@ Tdevol: “William is part of the mythology storyline and that the son will walk in his father's path to try and prevent the aliens from taking over the planet.”
Who says William has to be fighting for the side of good? Depending on his influences, he may end up playing a pivotal role in helping colonization succeed.
And in regards to casting young Mr. William, Tiff, you are spot on in thinking a quite maturity is needed. I voice, once again, my desire to see Jerry Shiban reprise his role. According to his IMDB page, he has done nothing after playing baby William in Existance.
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Permalink Reply by Young Heejin on -
Raskolnikov I agree about what you said that WIlliam's role will depend on the influences while growing up. If for example the aliens had Van Der Kamps killed, William has a chance of ending up as a bad person but if his real family's influence is really strong, he might end up as a good one like you said, Prevent aliens from taking over the planet.
What do you want to happen to William? I really want him to be back under Mulder and Scully's care. Reminds me of the fanfic Beyond the Truth.
Raskolnikov said:@ Dana Doggett: “…..the poor kid was adopted by a family that loves him, he was made normal by Jeffrey Spender….”
I disagree in part, with this statement. IMO, the introduction of magnetite by William’s Uncle Jeffry, rendered him temporarily human, thereby nullifying his powers. Magnetite is not normally found in the human body, so therefore the body will do its job and rid itself of the foreign toxin overtime.
@ Tdevol: “William is part of the mythology storyline and that the son will walk in his father's path to try and prevent the aliens from taking over the planet.”
Who says William has to be fighting for the side of good? Depending on his influences, he may end up playing a pivotal role in helping colonization succeed.
And in regards to casting young Mr. William, Tiff, you are spot on in thinking a quite maturity is needed. I voice, once again, my desire to see Jerry Shiban reprise his role. According to his IMDB page, he has done nothing after playing baby William in Existance.
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Permalink Reply by tdevol on
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The rogue FBI agent stated that William would walk in his father's path. Maybe he is bad at first, but the idea was that either Mulder or William had to die because of the prophecy. We also know that the aliens are afraid of William, of what being more human than human might mean for their plans to re-colonize the planet.
In the end, William has to be "good" because he is what can stop the aliens.
Raskolnikov said:@ Dana Doggett: “…..the poor kid was adopted by a family that loves him, he was made normal by Jeffrey Spender….”
I disagree in part, with this statement. IMO, the introduction of magnetite by William’s Uncle Jeffry, rendered him temporarily human, thereby nullifying his powers. Magnetite is not normally found in the human body, so therefore the body will do its job and rid itself of the foreign toxin overtime.
@ Tdevol: “William is part of the mythology storyline and that the son will walk in his father's path to try and prevent the aliens from taking over the planet.”
Who says William has to be fighting for the side of good? Depending on his influences, he may end up playing a pivotal role in helping colonization succeed.
And in regards to casting young Mr. William, Tiff, you are spot on in thinking a quite maturity is needed. I voice, once again, my desire to see Jerry Shiban reprise his role. According to his IMDB page, he has done nothing after playing baby William in Existance.
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Permalink Reply by tdevol on
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The interesting question is, did William happen naturally or not? If the answer is that William was conceived because he was engineered to do so in order to offer protection against the colonization, then he is all important to the government and perhaps it is not the aliens Mulder and Scully need to worry about abducting him from his adoptive parents but the government taking him as they would take Gibson to experiment, study and use him for their own benefit.
Maybe William's adoptive parents don't die. Maybe William is taken from them and Mulder and Scully are able to find him and they stop colonization but in the end, William goes back to the only parents and home he has ever known.
How completely sad yet beautiful would that be?
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Permalink Reply by Raskolnikov on
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@ Young Heejin: “What do you want to happen to William? I really want him to be back under Mulder and Scully's care.”
I may be alone in this train of thought, but I would like to see some conflict, angst, and just sorrow in regards to William and his biological parents, especially at the beginning of the storyline. I think it makes for more interesting character development and allows the audience to have an emotional investment. Of course, as the story progresses, then it can be a “we’re one big happy family” moment.
@ Tdevol: “The rogue FBI agent stated that William would walk in his father's path.”
True, but we don’t know when that will occur in William’s life, or what direction he is walking on that path. He could have the same drive and dedication to stop global colonization, or he could be apathetic and not want to do anything. I believe that this is where Mulder and Scully should come back into his life (however that occurs) and set him straight on the path he should take.
@ Tdevol: “Maybe William's adoptive parents don't die. Maybe William is taken from them and Mulder and Scully are able to find him and they stop colonization but in the end, William goes back to the only parents and home he has ever known.
How completely sad yet beautiful would that be?”
I love that ending. =)
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Permalink Reply by Raskolnikov on
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tdevol said:The interesting question is, did William happen naturally or not? If the answer is that William was conceived because he was engineered to do so in order to offer protection against the colonization, then he is all important to the government and perhaps it is not the aliens Mulder and Scully need to worry about abducting him from his adoptive parents but the government taking him as they would take Gibson to experiment, study and use him for their own benefit.
William came into this world through a natural birth. In my opinion, his creation was also natural, however I do believe that Mulder and Scully were maneuvered into creating William through their professional experiences - a deep partnerly trust and friendship that developed into romance.
I also do not think that William is unique. There are more offspring out there, waiting to be discovered.
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Permalink Reply by Matt Allair on -
Personally, I have always envisioned that the Van Der Kamps would be killed somehow. Now from a dramatic standpoint, I have felt the most interesting thing would be to bring William back at age 12, get him involved with Mulder and Scully without realizing who they are.
The great irony in my following opinion, I'm not all that certain it would be a good idea to bring William back into the storyline for the third film, as The X-Files built it's reputation on being unpredictable, but reintroduce William in the fourth film, if that ever becomes possible, bringing him along side the 2012 storyline, just seems too easy, especially if his Extra-Terrestrial abilities really were neutralized, IMHO.
Raskolnikov said:@ Young Heejin: “What do you want to happen to William? I really want him to be back under Mulder and Scully's care.”
I may be alone in this train of thought, but I would like to see some conflict, angst, and just sorrow in regards to William and his biological parents, especially at the beginning of the storyline. I think it makes for more interesting character development and allows the audience to have an emotional investment. Of course, as the story progresses, then it can be a “we’re one big happy family” moment.
@ Tdevol: “The rogue FBI agent stated that William would walk in his father's path.”
True, but we don’t know when that will occur in William’s life, or what direction he is walking on that path. He could have the same drive and dedication to stop global colonization, or he could be apathetic and not want to do anything. I believe that this is where Mulder and Scully should come back into his life (however that occurs) and set him straight on the path he should take.
@ Tdevol: “Maybe William's adoptive parents don't die. Maybe William is taken from them and Mulder and Scully are able to find him and they stop colonization but in the end, William goes back to the only parents and home he has ever known.
How completely sad yet beautiful would that be?”
I love that ending. =)
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Permalink Reply by tdevol on
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Matt, good point on the predictability factor but in the kind of mythology story "The X-Files" has going, isn't predictability to be expected? You have the hero's journey, the hero goes through trials and tribulations but ultimately prevails in the end. It's the angst to get from point A to point B that kills you. For "The X-Files" to become unpredictable, one or both main characters would have to die, or William would have to come back to them, and then either die or go back to his adoptive parents or the aliens take over the world and turn us all into a slave race.
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Permalink Reply by Patricia on -
If we follow the thread of William being some sort of "savior" child then doesn't he have to die in order to save the human race? I'd hate it. It would be depressing as hell in many ways, and probably not where you'd want to leave a franchise. But from a strict story-telling perspective, we can't ignore the possibility.
tdevol said:Matt, good point on the predictability factor but in the kind of mythology story "The X-Files" has going, isn't predictability to be expected? You have the hero's journey, the hero goes through trials and tribulations but ultimately prevails in the end. It's the angst to get from point A to point B that kills you. For "The X-Files" to become unpredictable, one or both main characters would have to die, or William would have to come back to them, and then either die or go back to his adoptive parents or the aliens take over the world and turn us all into a slave race.
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Permalink Reply by tdevol on
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I agree Patricia, that would be so horribly sad but then again, if he and Mulder are kind of one and the same, Mulder could technically take his place which would leave Scully where she always has been, a woman who has spent a lifetime dealing with unimaginable loss.
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Permalink Reply by Decoyly on -
I have nothing against William in general, but I do think it’d be a little hard to explain to an audience who have never seen The X-files who he was in the space of a two hour movie. I don’t want precious new XF time to be taken up with 20 minutes of trying to explain who this kid is, why he was given up, how Scully couldn’t have kids, then did, then…etc. etc. I would also hate it if (i.e. Indiana Jones) they all got back together and then XF 2.0 was a new William franchise. That, I think, is my one big reason for being against the reintroduction of William. The X-files was always about Mulder and Scully against the world, and I’d like to see Mulder and Scully fighting TOGETHER on this one just like the good ol’ days. It would be disappointing to see, say, a Mummy 3 plotline in which Mulder and his son go off to save the world as Scully decides she doesn’t want to do this anymore, then suddenly shows up at the end. :/ LoL (I did like both those movies by the way, but the introduction of grown-up sons did kind of take away from the original characters chemistries I think.)
However, when it all comes down to it, I’ve decided as long as Mulder and Scully are there, true to their characters, and don’t end up dead in the end, I’ll be happy. :)
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