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The X-Files Lexicon's position on the DD script misquote.
To the fans:
Myself, and other staffers of The X-Files Lexicon, wanted to address the reason why we haven’t been posting any articles, or officially commenting on the story about David Duchovny’s comments to a French magazine that a “third X-Files movie was being written.” Initially, I was willing to take the comment at face value, until a colleague and contributor to the Lexicon, a person who lives in France, warned me otherwise. This person further explained that she has read the magazine for many years, and she stressed that this magazine’s interviews with foreign actors almost never make sense because of their poor translations. While is it a cliché to bring this up, she admitted that most French people have understanding issues where foreign languages are involved--especially English. She pointed out that David probably made some vague statement about Chris and Frank throwing some ideas around. The writer seized on it, and tried to make it look like she / he had an inside scoop. I trust this colleague, and so we stand by our decision.
Having made that point, The X-Files Lexicon staff has never questioned the integrity of X-Files News in their reporting, and we consider them allies and friends. We simply held skepticism over the source. This in no way means that we at The X-Files Lexicon are not supportive of the effort to persuade 20th Century Fox to green light a third X-Files feature; we very much champion all fan efforts to petition Fox to finance a third film, as well as a Millennium feature.
However, the stated policy with The X-Files Lexicon is, we will not circulate information that hasn’t been confirmed by an official publicist, including hearsay, or rumor, but will cooperate with verifiable outlets. Regarding the actions of other websites, when it comes to publishing stories, we have no position, but we always wish them the best with their efforts.
A number of people have personally expressed their appreciation to me in that we only release verifiable information. During 2008, leading up to the release of I Want To Believe we employed this practice, and it served us well. As Fox Mulder might be prone to say – “No one has a monopoly on the truth.” All fans should aspire to gather the best information possible. I hope this clears up the matter.
Webmaster, Matt Allair
The X-Files Lexicon
Myself, and other staffers of The X-Files Lexicon, wanted to address the reason why we haven’t been posting any articles, or officially commenting on the story about David Duchovny’s comments to a French magazine that a “third X-Files movie was being written.” Initially, I was willing to take the comment at face value, until a colleague and contributor to the Lexicon, a person who lives in France, warned me otherwise. This person further explained that she has read the magazine for many years, and she stressed that this magazine’s interviews with foreign actors almost never make sense because of their poor translations. While is it a cliché to bring this up, she admitted that most French people have understanding issues where foreign languages are involved--especially English. She pointed out that David probably made some vague statement about Chris and Frank throwing some ideas around. The writer seized on it, and tried to make it look like she / he had an inside scoop. I trust this colleague, and so we stand by our decision.
Having made that point, The X-Files Lexicon staff has never questioned the integrity of X-Files News in their reporting, and we consider them allies and friends. We simply held skepticism over the source. This in no way means that we at The X-Files Lexicon are not supportive of the effort to persuade 20th Century Fox to green light a third X-Files feature; we very much champion all fan efforts to petition Fox to finance a third film, as well as a Millennium feature.
However, the stated policy with The X-Files Lexicon is, we will not circulate information that hasn’t been confirmed by an official publicist, including hearsay, or rumor, but will cooperate with verifiable outlets. Regarding the actions of other websites, when it comes to publishing stories, we have no position, but we always wish them the best with their efforts.
A number of people have personally expressed their appreciation to me in that we only release verifiable information. During 2008, leading up to the release of I Want To Believe we employed this practice, and it served us well. As Fox Mulder might be prone to say – “No one has a monopoly on the truth.” All fans should aspire to gather the best information possible. I hope this clears up the matter.
Webmaster, Matt Allair
The X-Files Lexicon
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Permalink Reply by tdevol on -
Since you want to do this publicly, here is our public statement:
While we respect The X-Files Lexicon's decision not to publish news of David's recent comments to TVMag, XFilesNews chose to report on an original French article as published both online and in print, in France. XFN published the original French quote and our translation of it by native French speakers. XFilesNews also published continuous updates to the article as more news became available.
The X-Files Lexicon is free to report or not report on whatever it sees fit but XFilesNews stands by its decision to report on the TVMag article.
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Permalink Reply by Sandi on -
Look at what reporting it has done... it's brought XF3 back into the spotlight! It's reignited everyone passion for the movie that all fans want so much! It's a good thing. The article got recognized by a Fox Blog too, which would make Fox take notice I believe.
tdevol said:Since you want to do this publicly, here is our public statement:
While we respect The X-Files Lexicon's decision not to publish news of David's recent comments to TVMag, XFilesNews chose to report on an original French article as published both online and in print, in France. XFN published the original French quote and our translation of it by native French speakers. XFilesNews also published continuous updates to the article as more news became available.
The X-Files Lexicon is free to report or not report on whatever it sees fit but XFilesNews stands by its decision to report on the TVMag article.
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Permalink Reply by tdevol on
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When asked how to help the cause for XF3 Chris Carter said over a year ago that fans got the second film made and to make Fox aware. But that is beside the point.
The adage of any publicity is good publicity applies to the idea that making the public aware of a topic is better than the public never having heard of a topic. The trick with publicity is to effectively manage it and in the entertainment world, the more buzz about a subject, the better. Does that mean to make up rumors? Of course not. And no one made up a rumor here.
Ask yourself why Fox All Access picked up the story and why Frank made the statement he did in his mail bag :) Not being able to say is not the same thing as 'nothing is happening.'
philiater said:I think it depends on whether you are an 'any publicity is good publicity' kind of person. I dearly love the idea of XF3, but I'm honestly worried about future credibility issues arising when information is released.
This is strictly my opinion and is largely due to being steeped in evidence-based information for years and years. The stories I could tell about being asked what the latest study said about a particular thing and being told not to repeat something that I had heard from someone else. It was grueling, but was a valuable lesson in understanding how misinformation can occur and harm.
Again, JMHO
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Permalink Reply by Avi Alleyphile on -
Yes, we could had gone to David's rep... or maybe like we did to a FOX exec... maybe, just maybe... Latino review didn't check with Davids people until they had already run the news as this magazine reported this, just like XFN did. At no point did we say WE JUST HEARD DAVID SAY THIS. we on the other hand said: THIS MAGAZINE INTERVIEWED DAVID AND HE SAID THIS ACCORDING TO THE INTERVIEW. but No people rather focus on the OH NO XFN CLAIMS IT, LOOK AT THEM they seem to forget that we were reporting just as any other media... we did not break the news, the french magazine did.
why arent people bashing against every one of the blogs that picked it up and reported just like we did? why are they going with pitchforks and whatever to Fox blogs and asking why them being an actual FOX OWNED ENTITY made voice of these comments??
XFN reports X-Files news. This is all.
But then again... resting on the point of FOX blogs picking it up and people thinking that they know the film industry like the back of their hand... its just useless... everyone will always claim that they know the truth, no one will trust any one unless they feel it caters to what they believe will happen, and then at the end of the day, when XF3 gets announced... everyone in their own way will say I told you so, for whatever reason they want to claim as they were right...
The fact of the matter is that important thing is not about being right or wrong... and that there's a want.
But we seem to forget that, or people seem to, I don't... and the ones that don't forget that they want whenever you even get near the posibility of actually having this movie happen, god forbid you could be innaccurate... cause the worl might crumble down....
Every one of us has wanted this movie hard enough to have it, people seem to forget that we're philes just like you and we also get dissapointed whenver things are not happening. do we chose to wallow and cry? No. Do we chose to point fingers as to why is not happening, I'd be honest about 50% of the time, and only after e've asked ourselves what are we not doing right to make it happen...
I'd like to see how many of the negative peeps have done their share to help out and at least bring positive thoughts about actually making a movie happen.
We chose another way, and keeping the information afloat is one. So sorry if we break hearts in the process, our hearts are made of the same material as yours. Im happy that you want another movie though, the less that we need is less philes.
Skinner will be in it I'm sure.
So will William...
and I look forward to the day I can finally see the credits of XF3 and say... we all as a fandom made this happen when we orget about fighting over stupid stuff...
philiater said:
tdevol said:When asked how to help the cause for XF3 Chris Carter said over a year ago that fans got the second film made and to make Fox aware. But that is beside the point.
The adage of any publicity is good publicity applies to the idea that making the public aware of a topic is better than the public never having heard of a topic. The trick with publicity is to effectively manage it and in the entertainment world, the more buzz about a subject, the better. Does that mean to make up rumors? Of course not. And no one made up a rumor here.
Ask yourself why Fox All Access picked up the story and why Frank made the statement he did in his mail bag :) Not being able to say is not the same thing as 'nothing is happening.'
philiater said:I think it depends on whether you are an 'any publicity is good publicity' kind of person. I dearly love the idea of XF3, but I'm honestly worried about future credibility issues arising when information is released.
This is strictly my opinion and is largely due to being steeped in evidence-based information for years and years. The stories I could tell about being asked what the latest study said about a particular thing and being told not to repeat something that I had heard from someone else. It was grueling, but was a valuable lesson in understanding how misinformation can occur and harm.
Again, JMHO
Ideally, checking with David's publicity people first, as Latino review did in follow up, before sending out news releases would have been ideal.
I'm just personally uncomfortable with this tactic, but am in no way saying you guys should be. XF3 needs all the support it can get.
We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Permalink Reply by tdevol on
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Also to jump off of what Avi said, a publicist is not going to confirm anything while their client is under a non disclosure agreement and let's just for argument's sake say that an NDA is in place, then David is unable to make any kind of official statement without official word from FOX which like I have said before, will not come until a green light and also, like I have said before, the green light for IWTB was not announced until just weeks before shooting.
The way it works is usually a blog gets wind, it spreads, people issue denials because they are not allowed to confirm. Is that happening in this case? Perhaps. Could David have said something to the French reporter that indicated it was in the works? Perhaps. Could the reporter have misconstrued what he said? Perhaps. Since you don't know for sure I guess we will keep on reporting what other magazines publish, and those who don't want to share in the excitement can wait :) No harm, no fowl.
I would also like to point out that TVMag is an entertainment magazine, not just some blog. We ran the story because it was a published article in a weekly magazine. Also, the story was reported in Metro UK a few days later.
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Permalink Reply by tdevol on
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We made the spread happen, but we didn't generate the original story.
As for the Fox executive, who we will not name, we are unable to state what the person said.
This shouldn't be about what site does what, it should be about a fandom coming together to support a film that most of us want. The he said she said crap is just crap and for one website to come here and basically, passive aggressively bash the one place that has spent the last 3 years busting their ass to get everyone together, shipper, noromo, fencer, skinner fan, doggett/reyes fan into one place to collectively work together toward an XF3 greenlight, is just ludicrous.
Are we proud of what we do at XFN? Of course, I think we've earned the right to be proud of it but would we be here without all of you? Of course not. No one gets there alone, believe me, we know that. We aren't trying to be the only kids on the block, we are trying to be the loudest in getting everyone together to get this done.
I too want Skinner in this movie, and on that Phil, you and I can most CERTAINLY agree :)
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Permalink Reply by tdevol on
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First, I didn't come to Big Light and tell Matt that his website circulated bad information and furthermore, I never implied that Matt didn't bust his ass.
edit to say that I am trying to keep this positive, but you seem to want to take it into the negative and I'm not sure why that is.
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Permalink Reply by Avi Alleyphile on
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Yeah
I did not go into any forums with names and everything to bash Matt, even when he says that he respects us as an ally, one thing is to come and make a public statement about this and another is to come as an ally and email or message us as dozen of times have happened in the past about many things we have collaborated on.
One thing is to have an opinion, another is this, where I personally feel this is a public statement of "oh look we can behave better" because we dont dare to report. Another thing that i find basic to point out is that we are XFILESNEWS, the lexicon is not a news site, if anything is an interview and documentary site. our nature is totally different.
Im sorry if at this point im past being polite if i ever was, but im tired of that everytime something goes awry even when beyond our hands many are just ready to point our way to put blame where no blame is needed... i dont even see the point on fighting over this... is not like any of us bought a ticket to LA and lost their house over getting premiere tickets...
yes... im already annoyed at this... anyhow, moving on, i have a movie to produce that is actually shooting in 20 days.
Peace out.
Seriously though, I do approve of Skinman in boxers in XF3
philiater said:I imagine that Matt busts his ass, as we all have over the years.
tdevol said:We made the spread happen, but we didn't generate the original story.
As for the Fox executive, who we will not name, we are unable to state what the person said.
This shouldn't be about what site does what, it should be about a fandom coming together to support a film that most of us want. The he said she said crap is just crap and for one website to come here and basically, passive aggressively bash the one place that has spent the last 3 years busting their ass to get everyone together, shipper, noromo, fencer, skinner fan, doggett/reyes fan into one place to collectively work together toward an XF3 greenlight, is just ludicrous.
Are we proud of what we do at XFN? Of course, I think we've earned the right to be proud of it but would we be here without all of you? Of course not. No one gets there alone, believe me, we know that. We aren't trying to be the only kids on the block, we are trying to be the loudest in getting everyone together to get this done.
I too want Skinner in this movie, and on that Phil, you and I can most CERTAINLY agree :)
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Permalink Reply by Boston on -
Frankenbear approves of this message. Since he's the original Fanties owner.
tdevol said:No Avi, Skinner in FANTIES in XF3
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Permalink Reply by tdevol on
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Also, since you quoted me from a completely different message board earlier, I will quote you:
"I'm struggling to make sense of what's been going on this weekend with respect to XF3. The fact that GAWS, Frank Spotnitz and foxallaccess are now reporting on it is an interesting development. Even if the original information is proven to be faulty or outright wrong, I think TPTB may be using this as an opportunity to gauge fan opinion. Fox all access is asking if there is interest, so I'm going to go ahead and post a few links."
So 4 days ago, you felt this was gauging fan reaction but today, you believe we are in the wrong.
philiater said:Negative? Not at all. I'm simply having an interesting, civil discussion about why I think a certain way.
Again, agree to disagree.
tdevol said:First, I didn't come to Big Light and tell Matt that his website circulated bad information and furthermore, I never implied that Matt didn't bust his ass.
edit to say that I am trying to keep this positive, but you seem to want to take it into the negative and I'm not sure why that is.
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